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		<title>Comment on politics as usual by Schzmyth</title>
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		<title>Comment on Go for it, Spoony McDuff! by Spoonie</title>
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		<description>Hay Man. You really should look into this &#039;Spoony&#039; or &#039;Spoonie&#039; thing. I mean really.I don&#039;t know what to tell you but there is something to it-maybe.
 The story of Spoonies as a sort of cult has been told to me by many criminals. Mostly older guys from New York. They all sort of talk a lot of shit and I am convinced that most of their ideas develop around things they can&#039;t explain.Myth and all that. In a modern sense, this is sort of how the mafia developed as we see it.All that kissing on the hand and all that really went on, but only after the Godfather films. The F.B.I. started to notice the hand kissing and ritual now part of the mafia tradition. Of course, most of that was taken from the pope and those rituals and never really appeared anywhere in Sicilian organized crime until the Godfather.
    In the same way, many very weird and divergent groups connect to the &#039;Spoonies&#039; story. One is that is is a secret society cult thing for women connected to Hollywood. There are secret parties held in the Hollywood and Melrose area for women that have some pretty strange aspects to them. There is a code to get in. Once you get in, there are different levels. Some women can only stay in the beginning area. Others get to go to another. In all of the levels there are both men and women, but the men cannot approach the women and there are only a couple walking around. For the most part, the higher you get in levels the more obscene everything becomes and in the end it all seems like your typical Hollywood freak show with people on stage and private booths and all that.The only part of it that is not typical is that its mostly women, no drugs or booze, not really a leather thing and all the guys are either in stage or sort of at the bid of these women.A lot of the women there are college women that are just there. It is hard to say what the drive is.Really, I think it is just a chance to have a freaky party in Hollywood and charge people a bunch of money by creating different &#039;levels&#039; and only having sex shows in the higher ones. One of the main drives may not only to have some fun in a town were its hard to do so and all the guys are down your neck the minute you step into a club, but I think there a financial thing goin on. it must be like a pyramid scheme or something. This part I do not know about.But, of the many Hollywood parties were you can put those little masks on and walk around in some loft and have anonymous sex, Spoonies parties are the best because its mostly women, the shows on stage and in the booths are themed centered around men rather then women but its not all stripper and everything.A lot of the guys really try to connect and they seem to be all yours if you want them.Thank god for modern medicine because I think one of the requirements for the guys there is to be &#039;blessed.&#039; They just can&#039;t all be real.lol That is what I can tell you for sure. I have been to a couple and they are pretty cool. I think it is really a lot of hype and the best I can come up with is that this is a place for women that just want to relax and act like a kid in a candy store.
  What they told me, or the best that I can gather, is that Spoonies started for women involved in the temperance movement in the hills of the San Fernando valley.They came to the area and set up camp, literally, from many different backgrounds. most escaping men.They blamed booze on the problems in their life and society. Yet, they found out that they could do without the booze, but not the Sex. Some had sex with each other. Others invited men in at night. You can see were this going and, yes, soon it became a luritave side busyness.Day meetings and meditation and at night, something different.At some point, what was going on in the day was intergrated with what was going on at night.Many of these women were probably getting off booze and or drugs themselves and all those hormones were kicking in. I think it was only a matter of time before men became some part of the picture for some of the women. This is assuming a lot, but either for cash or &#039;other,&#039; SOME women of the 1800s may have needed either or both. The question then became, what to do with they guy thing and the money thing? If you let them be a part of your life, then its the same problems all over. So, Spoonies camps became sex camps. As far as everyone told me, men of means were picked and let in.But through investments and good banking, after a short while, none of the men were needed any more. Spoonies women started letting in only men they liked.Then they got involved in Hollywood in some way and this is were the place is today-a secret sex club in Melrose.There still seemed to be a &#039;lifestyle&#039; aspect to some of it in that I heard that there is a sort of housing net or something were women can stay for free in &#039;Spoonies Houses,&#039; but for the most part, it seems to be a pyramid gig were you get the people below you to pay for membership and you get a cut.I think the term Spoonies is really from Jane Eyre and just a common tern rather then a reference to a secret society.Laysander Spooner may be another theme in that the story told to me had hints of both capitolism as well as socialism in that there existence together, as in Laysanders case, can not be rationalized beyond a separate use for each other and ending in a utopian type of Anarchism. it is interesting that is you put together Eyres sense of the erotic connecting to the forbidden and Spooners  sense of economic dichotomy existing  together, you may end up with the Spoonies in the California.Maybe it just meant &#039;gushy&#039; or a sort of overly sentimental person.lol
  On the other side, their is another story. This one is about a guy named Anthonie Espoonazera, called &#039;Spoonie&#039; for short. Sicily, 1900s. Got kicked out for stealing and beating up the town idiot.Came to N.Y. Got involved with Mafia stuff.Maybe had something to do with Jazz. Was meeting with the local crime guys and a police man named Ahron came in and wondered why the head of the most powerful Jewish gang was meeting with the head of an Irish gang and a local black killer from Harlem in Spoonies music store.Spoonie replied that they were rehersing. Ahron said he wanted to hear them. Spoonie took up a violin and started playing Danny Boy, the Irish guy started singing it, the guy from Harlem tapped out a rythem on the drums and the Jewish guy picked up the claranett and started to get some use out of those lessons when he was Twelve.That lasted about twenty seconds and then they all went off doing their own thing. Spoonie instructed them to do it seperately, one at a time, then brought them all together.This did not work and Ahron came back later to find tons of coffie they were shipping out without paying any taxes on.Got busted and fled to California.Was chased by that police guy named Ahron.Hid out for years. No one knew how he did it. Stayed low. Made tons of cash. Some say by offering protection to brothels.Tried to get into Hollywood but messed up. Was banned beyond the &#039;mountain&#039; and ended up in Burbank. Funded a lot of projects in that area. Made a killing on the &#039;Carson&#039; thing. Tried to will funding for his son to start a resterant of sorts in Sunland.That then got busted by the feds. This story was told to me by three different old guys who said they were in the mafia.They sort of use it as a way to discount the &#039;Dragna&#039; story of how the Sicilian mafia was run out of Hollywood and the &#039;Hearst&#039; thing and offer it as an explanation of how it all went down, but that in a different way, the mafia in Hollywood is still alive, just that it went underground and may come back some day.........
 In both cases there seems to really be no facts. There are no records of women called &#039;Spoonies&#039; in the Valley and there are no records of anyone being arrested or doing anything in L.A. named &#039;Spoonie.&#039; Yet,these guys told me that they did all that hand kissing, burning of the thing in your palm, calling the gig the Mafia or Cosa Nostra and all that and were doing time for it, and swore that there was a Spoonie!Some said that he dealt heroine and that&#039;s why they called him &#039;Spoonie.&#039;Anyway, the stories have a merging point and that is California, Prostitution and secrecy.Who knows.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay Man. You really should look into this &#8216;Spoony&#8217; or &#8216;Spoonie&#8217; thing. I mean really.I don&#8217;t know what to tell you but there is something to it-maybe.<br />
 The story of Spoonies as a sort of cult has been told to me by many criminals. Mostly older guys from New York. They all sort of talk a lot of shit and I am convinced that most of their ideas develop around things they can&#8217;t explain.Myth and all that. In a modern sense, this is sort of how the mafia developed as we see it.All that kissing on the hand and all that really went on, but only after the Godfather films. The F.B.I. started to notice the hand kissing and ritual now part of the mafia tradition. Of course, most of that was taken from the pope and those rituals and never really appeared anywhere in Sicilian organized crime until the Godfather.<br />
    In the same way, many very weird and divergent groups connect to the &#8216;Spoonies&#8217; story. One is that is is a secret society cult thing for women connected to Hollywood. There are secret parties held in the Hollywood and Melrose area for women that have some pretty strange aspects to them. There is a code to get in. Once you get in, there are different levels. Some women can only stay in the beginning area. Others get to go to another. In all of the levels there are both men and women, but the men cannot approach the women and there are only a couple walking around. For the most part, the higher you get in levels the more obscene everything becomes and in the end it all seems like your typical Hollywood freak show with people on stage and private booths and all that.The only part of it that is not typical is that its mostly women, no drugs or booze, not really a leather thing and all the guys are either in stage or sort of at the bid of these women.A lot of the women there are college women that are just there. It is hard to say what the drive is.Really, I think it is just a chance to have a freaky party in Hollywood and charge people a bunch of money by creating different &#8216;levels&#8217; and only having sex shows in the higher ones. One of the main drives may not only to have some fun in a town were its hard to do so and all the guys are down your neck the minute you step into a club, but I think there a financial thing goin on. it must be like a pyramid scheme or something. This part I do not know about.But, of the many Hollywood parties were you can put those little masks on and walk around in some loft and have anonymous sex, Spoonies parties are the best because its mostly women, the shows on stage and in the booths are themed centered around men rather then women but its not all stripper and everything.A lot of the guys really try to connect and they seem to be all yours if you want them.Thank god for modern medicine because I think one of the requirements for the guys there is to be &#8216;blessed.&#8217; They just can&#8217;t all be real.lol That is what I can tell you for sure. I have been to a couple and they are pretty cool. I think it is really a lot of hype and the best I can come up with is that this is a place for women that just want to relax and act like a kid in a candy store.<br />
  What they told me, or the best that I can gather, is that Spoonies started for women involved in the temperance movement in the hills of the San Fernando valley.They came to the area and set up camp, literally, from many different backgrounds. most escaping men.They blamed booze on the problems in their life and society. Yet, they found out that they could do without the booze, but not the Sex. Some had sex with each other. Others invited men in at night. You can see were this going and, yes, soon it became a luritave side busyness.Day meetings and meditation and at night, something different.At some point, what was going on in the day was intergrated with what was going on at night.Many of these women were probably getting off booze and or drugs themselves and all those hormones were kicking in. I think it was only a matter of time before men became some part of the picture for some of the women. This is assuming a lot, but either for cash or &#8216;other,&#8217; SOME women of the 1800s may have needed either or both. The question then became, what to do with they guy thing and the money thing? If you let them be a part of your life, then its the same problems all over. So, Spoonies camps became sex camps. As far as everyone told me, men of means were picked and let in.But through investments and good banking, after a short while, none of the men were needed any more. Spoonies women started letting in only men they liked.Then they got involved in Hollywood in some way and this is were the place is today-a secret sex club in Melrose.There still seemed to be a &#8216;lifestyle&#8217; aspect to some of it in that I heard that there is a sort of housing net or something were women can stay for free in &#8216;Spoonies Houses,&#8217; but for the most part, it seems to be a pyramid gig were you get the people below you to pay for membership and you get a cut.I think the term Spoonies is really from Jane Eyre and just a common tern rather then a reference to a secret society.Laysander Spooner may be another theme in that the story told to me had hints of both capitolism as well as socialism in that there existence together, as in Laysanders case, can not be rationalized beyond a separate use for each other and ending in a utopian type of Anarchism. it is interesting that is you put together Eyres sense of the erotic connecting to the forbidden and Spooners  sense of economic dichotomy existing  together, you may end up with the Spoonies in the California.Maybe it just meant &#8216;gushy&#8217; or a sort of overly sentimental person.lol<br />
  On the other side, their is another story. This one is about a guy named Anthonie Espoonazera, called &#8216;Spoonie&#8217; for short. Sicily, 1900s. Got kicked out for stealing and beating up the town idiot.Came to N.Y. Got involved with Mafia stuff.Maybe had something to do with Jazz. Was meeting with the local crime guys and a police man named Ahron came in and wondered why the head of the most powerful Jewish gang was meeting with the head of an Irish gang and a local black killer from Harlem in Spoonies music store.Spoonie replied that they were rehersing. Ahron said he wanted to hear them. Spoonie took up a violin and started playing Danny Boy, the Irish guy started singing it, the guy from Harlem tapped out a rythem on the drums and the Jewish guy picked up the claranett and started to get some use out of those lessons when he was Twelve.That lasted about twenty seconds and then they all went off doing their own thing. Spoonie instructed them to do it seperately, one at a time, then brought them all together.This did not work and Ahron came back later to find tons of coffie they were shipping out without paying any taxes on.Got busted and fled to California.Was chased by that police guy named Ahron.Hid out for years. No one knew how he did it. Stayed low. Made tons of cash. Some say by offering protection to brothels.Tried to get into Hollywood but messed up. Was banned beyond the &#8216;mountain&#8217; and ended up in Burbank. Funded a lot of projects in that area. Made a killing on the &#8216;Carson&#8217; thing. Tried to will funding for his son to start a resterant of sorts in Sunland.That then got busted by the feds. This story was told to me by three different old guys who said they were in the mafia.They sort of use it as a way to discount the &#8216;Dragna&#8217; story of how the Sicilian mafia was run out of Hollywood and the &#8216;Hearst&#8217; thing and offer it as an explanation of how it all went down, but that in a different way, the mafia in Hollywood is still alive, just that it went underground and may come back some day&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
 In both cases there seems to really be no facts. There are no records of women called &#8216;Spoonies&#8217; in the Valley and there are no records of anyone being arrested or doing anything in L.A. named &#8216;Spoonie.&#8217; Yet,these guys told me that they did all that hand kissing, burning of the thing in your palm, calling the gig the Mafia or Cosa Nostra and all that and were doing time for it, and swore that there was a Spoonie!Some said that he dealt heroine and that&#8217;s why they called him &#8216;Spoonie.&#8217;Anyway, the stories have a merging point and that is California, Prostitution and secrecy.Who knows&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go for it, Spoony McDuff! by Spoonie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hay Man. You really should look into this &#039;Spoony&#039; thing. I mean really.I don&#039;t know what to tell you but there is something to it-maybe.
 The story of Spoonies as a sort of cult has been told to me by many criminals. Mostly older guys from New York. They all sort of talk a lot of shit and I am convinced that most of their ideas develop around things they can&#039;t explain.Myth and all that. In a modern sense, this is sort of how the mafia developed as we see it.All that kissing on the hand and all that really went on, but only after the Godfather films. The F.B.I. started to notice the hand kissing and ritual now part of the mafia tradition. Of course, most of that was taken from the pope and those rituals and never really appeared anywhere in Sicilian organized crime until the Godfather.
    In the same way, many very weird and divergent groups connect to the &#039;Spoonies&#039; story. One is that is is a secret society cult thing for women connected to Hollywood. There are secret parties held in the Hollywood and Melrose area for women that have some pretty strange aspects to them. There is a code to get in. Once you get in, there are different levels. Some women can only stay in the beginning area. Others get to go to another. In all of the levels there are both men and women, but the men cannot approach the women and there are only a couple walking around. For the most part, the higher you get in levels the more obscene everything becomes and in the end it all seems like your typical Hollywood freak show with people on stage and private booths and all that.The only part of it that is not typical is that its mostly women, no drugs or booze, not really a leather thing and all the guys are either in stage or sort of at the bid of these women.A lot of the women there are college women that are just there. It is hard to say what the drive is.Really, I think it is just a chance to have a freaky party in Hollywood and charge people a bunch of money by creating different &#039;levels&#039; and only having sex shows in the higher ones. One of the main drives may not only to have some fun in a town were its hard to do so and all the guys are down your neck the minute you step into a club, but I think there a financial thing goin on. it must be like a pyramid scheme or something. This part I do not know about.But, of the many Hollywood parties were you can put those little masks on and walk around in some loft and have anonymous sex, Spoonies parties are the best because its mostly women, the shows on stage and in the booths are themed centered around men rather then women but its not all stripper and everything.A lot of the guys really try to connect and they seem to be all yours if you want them.Thank god for modern medicine because I think one of the requirements for the guys there is to be &#039;blessed.&#039; They just can&#039;t all be real.lol That is what I can tell you for sure. I have been to a couple and they are pretty cool. I think it is really a lot of hype and the best I can come up with is that this is a place for women that just want to relax and act like a kid in a candy store.
  What they told me, or the best that I can gather, is that Spoonies started for women involved in the temperance movement in the hills of the San Fernando valley.They came to the area and set up camp, literally, from many different backgrounds. most escaping men.They blamed booze on the problems in their life and society. Yet, they found out that they could do without the booze, but not the Sex. Some had sex with each other. Others invited men in at night. You can see were this going and, yes, soon it became a luritave side busyness.Day meetings and meditation and at night, something different.At some point, what was going on in the day was intergrated with what was going on at night.Many of these women were probably getting off booze and or drugs themselves and all those hormones were kicking in. I think it was only a matter of time before men became some part of the picture for some of the women. This is assuming a lot, but either for cash or &#039;other,&#039; SOME women of the 1800s may have needed either or both. The question then became, what to do with they guy thing and the money thing? If you let them be a part of your life, then its the same problems all over. So, Spoonies camps became sex camps. As far as everyone told me, men of means were picked and let in.But through investments and good banking, after a short while, none of the men were needed any more. Spoonies women started letting in only men they liked.Then they got involved in Hollywood in some way and this is were the place is today-a secret sex club in Melrose.There still seemed to be a &#039;lifestyle&#039; aspect to some of it in that I heard that there is a sort of housing net or something were women can stay for free in &#039;Spoonies Houses,&#039; but for the most part, it seems to be a pyramid gig were you get the people below you to pay for membership and you get a cut.I think the term Spoonies is really from Jane Eyre and just a common tern rather then a reference to a secret society.Laysander Spooner may be another theme in that the story told to me had hints of both capitolism as well as socialism in that there existence together, as in Laysanders case, can not be rationalized beyond a separate use for each other and ending in a utopian type of Anarchism. it is interesting that is you put together Eyres sense of the erotic connecting to the forbidden and Spooners  sense of economic dichotomy existing  together, you may end up with the Spoonies in the California.Maybe it just meant &#039;gushy&#039; or a sort of overly sentimental person.lol
  On the other side, their is another story. This one is about a guy named Anthonie Espoonazera, called &#039;Spoonie&#039; for short. Sicily, 1900s. Got kicked out for stealing and beating up the town idiot.Came to N.Y. Got involved with Mafia stuff.Maybe had something to do with Jazz. Was meeting with the local crime guys and a police man named Ahron came in and wondered why the head of the most powerful Jewish gang was meeting with the head of an Irish gang and a local black killer from Harlem in Spoonies music store.Spoonie replied that they were rehersing. Ahron said he wanted to hear them. Spoonie took up a violin and started playing Danny Boy, the Irish guy started singing it, the guy from Harlem tapped out a rythem on the drums and the Jewish guy picked up the claranett and started to get some use out of those lessons when he was Twelve.That lasted about twenty seconds and then they all went off doing their own thing. Spoonie instructed them to do it seperately, one at a time, then brought them all together.This did not work and Ahron came back later to find tons of coffie they were shipping out without paying any taxes on.Got busted and fled to California.Was chased by that police guy named Ahron.Hid out for years. No one knew how he did it. Stayed low. Made tons of cash. Some say by offering protection to brothels.Tried to get into Hollywood but messed up. Was banned beyond the &#039;mountain&#039; and ended up in Burbank. Funded a lot of projects in that area. Made a killing on the &#039;Carson&#039; thing. Tried to will funding for his son to start a resterant of sorts in Sunland.That then got busted by the feds. This story was told to me by three different old guys who said they were in the mafia.They sort of use it as a way to discount the &#039;Dragna&#039; story of how the Sicilian mafia was run out of Hollywood and the &#039;Hearst&#039; thing and offer it as an explanation of how it all went down, but that in a different way, the mafia in Hollywood is still alive, just that it went underground and may come back some day.........
 In both cases there seems to really be no facts. There are no records of women called &#039;Spoonies&#039; in the Valley and there are no records of anyone being arrested or doing anything in L.A. named &#039;Spoonie.&#039; Yet,these guys told me that they did all that hand kissing, burning of the thing in your palm, calling the gig the Mafia or Cosa Nostra and all that and were doing time for it, and swore that there was a Spoonie!Some said that he dealt heroine and that&#039;s why they called him &#039;Spoonie.&#039;Anyway, the stories have a merging point and that is California, Prostitution and secrecy.Who knows.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hay Man. You really should look into this &#8216;Spoony&#8217; thing. I mean really.I don&#8217;t know what to tell you but there is something to it-maybe.<br />
 The story of Spoonies as a sort of cult has been told to me by many criminals. Mostly older guys from New York. They all sort of talk a lot of shit and I am convinced that most of their ideas develop around things they can&#8217;t explain.Myth and all that. In a modern sense, this is sort of how the mafia developed as we see it.All that kissing on the hand and all that really went on, but only after the Godfather films. The F.B.I. started to notice the hand kissing and ritual now part of the mafia tradition. Of course, most of that was taken from the pope and those rituals and never really appeared anywhere in Sicilian organized crime until the Godfather.<br />
    In the same way, many very weird and divergent groups connect to the &#8216;Spoonies&#8217; story. One is that is is a secret society cult thing for women connected to Hollywood. There are secret parties held in the Hollywood and Melrose area for women that have some pretty strange aspects to them. There is a code to get in. Once you get in, there are different levels. Some women can only stay in the beginning area. Others get to go to another. In all of the levels there are both men and women, but the men cannot approach the women and there are only a couple walking around. For the most part, the higher you get in levels the more obscene everything becomes and in the end it all seems like your typical Hollywood freak show with people on stage and private booths and all that.The only part of it that is not typical is that its mostly women, no drugs or booze, not really a leather thing and all the guys are either in stage or sort of at the bid of these women.A lot of the women there are college women that are just there. It is hard to say what the drive is.Really, I think it is just a chance to have a freaky party in Hollywood and charge people a bunch of money by creating different &#8216;levels&#8217; and only having sex shows in the higher ones. One of the main drives may not only to have some fun in a town were its hard to do so and all the guys are down your neck the minute you step into a club, but I think there a financial thing goin on. it must be like a pyramid scheme or something. This part I do not know about.But, of the many Hollywood parties were you can put those little masks on and walk around in some loft and have anonymous sex, Spoonies parties are the best because its mostly women, the shows on stage and in the booths are themed centered around men rather then women but its not all stripper and everything.A lot of the guys really try to connect and they seem to be all yours if you want them.Thank god for modern medicine because I think one of the requirements for the guys there is to be &#8216;blessed.&#8217; They just can&#8217;t all be real.lol That is what I can tell you for sure. I have been to a couple and they are pretty cool. I think it is really a lot of hype and the best I can come up with is that this is a place for women that just want to relax and act like a kid in a candy store.<br />
  What they told me, or the best that I can gather, is that Spoonies started for women involved in the temperance movement in the hills of the San Fernando valley.They came to the area and set up camp, literally, from many different backgrounds. most escaping men.They blamed booze on the problems in their life and society. Yet, they found out that they could do without the booze, but not the Sex. Some had sex with each other. Others invited men in at night. You can see were this going and, yes, soon it became a luritave side busyness.Day meetings and meditation and at night, something different.At some point, what was going on in the day was intergrated with what was going on at night.Many of these women were probably getting off booze and or drugs themselves and all those hormones were kicking in. I think it was only a matter of time before men became some part of the picture for some of the women. This is assuming a lot, but either for cash or &#8216;other,&#8217; SOME women of the 1800s may have needed either or both. The question then became, what to do with they guy thing and the money thing? If you let them be a part of your life, then its the same problems all over. So, Spoonies camps became sex camps. As far as everyone told me, men of means were picked and let in.But through investments and good banking, after a short while, none of the men were needed any more. Spoonies women started letting in only men they liked.Then they got involved in Hollywood in some way and this is were the place is today-a secret sex club in Melrose.There still seemed to be a &#8216;lifestyle&#8217; aspect to some of it in that I heard that there is a sort of housing net or something were women can stay for free in &#8216;Spoonies Houses,&#8217; but for the most part, it seems to be a pyramid gig were you get the people below you to pay for membership and you get a cut.I think the term Spoonies is really from Jane Eyre and just a common tern rather then a reference to a secret society.Laysander Spooner may be another theme in that the story told to me had hints of both capitolism as well as socialism in that there existence together, as in Laysanders case, can not be rationalized beyond a separate use for each other and ending in a utopian type of Anarchism. it is interesting that is you put together Eyres sense of the erotic connecting to the forbidden and Spooners  sense of economic dichotomy existing  together, you may end up with the Spoonies in the California.Maybe it just meant &#8216;gushy&#8217; or a sort of overly sentimental person.lol<br />
  On the other side, their is another story. This one is about a guy named Anthonie Espoonazera, called &#8216;Spoonie&#8217; for short. Sicily, 1900s. Got kicked out for stealing and beating up the town idiot.Came to N.Y. Got involved with Mafia stuff.Maybe had something to do with Jazz. Was meeting with the local crime guys and a police man named Ahron came in and wondered why the head of the most powerful Jewish gang was meeting with the head of an Irish gang and a local black killer from Harlem in Spoonies music store.Spoonie replied that they were rehersing. Ahron said he wanted to hear them. Spoonie took up a violin and started playing Danny Boy, the Irish guy started singing it, the guy from Harlem tapped out a rythem on the drums and the Jewish guy picked up the claranett and started to get some use out of those lessons when he was Twelve.That lasted about twenty seconds and then they all went off doing their own thing. Spoonie instructed them to do it seperately, one at a time, then brought them all together.This did not work and Ahron came back later to find tons of coffie they were shipping out without paying any taxes on.Got busted and fled to California.Was chased by that police guy named Ahron.Hid out for years. No one knew how he did it. Stayed low. Made tons of cash. Some say by offering protection to brothels.Tried to get into Hollywood but messed up. Was banned beyond the &#8216;mountain&#8217; and ended up in Burbank. Funded a lot of projects in that area. Made a killing on the &#8216;Carson&#8217; thing. Tried to will funding for his son to start a resterant of sorts in Sunland.That then got busted by the feds. This story was told to me by three different old guys who said they were in the mafia.They sort of use it as a way to discount the &#8216;Dragna&#8217; story of how the Sicilian mafia was run out of Hollywood and the &#8216;Hearst&#8217; thing and offer it as an explanation of how it all went down, but that in a different way, the mafia in Hollywood is still alive, just that it went underground and may come back some day&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
 In both cases there seems to really be no facts. There are no records of women called &#8216;Spoonies&#8217; in the Valley and there are no records of anyone being arrested or doing anything in L.A. named &#8216;Spoonie.&#8217; Yet,these guys told me that they did all that hand kissing, burning of the thing in your palm, calling the gig the Mafia or Cosa Nostra and all that and were doing time for it, and swore that there was a Spoonie!Some said that he dealt heroine and that&#8217;s why they called him &#8216;Spoonie.&#8217;Anyway, the stories have a merging point and that is California, Prostitution and secrecy.Who knows&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator>jonie v.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 20:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i linked to them, doof! the other one, in any case, is &quot;apple and oranges.&quot; happy to oblige. sorry to give you the answer on the air.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i linked to them, doof! the other one, in any case, is &#8220;apple and oranges.&#8221; happy to oblige. sorry to give you the answer on the air.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 33 most compelling reasons why we need a woman to replace judge souter in SCOTUS by Li'l Pony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Li'l Pony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 12:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only think of one of the &quot;oranges&quot; books. What&#039;s the other one? You don&#039;t need to tell me both. Just the other one. I&#039;ll take my answer off the air, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only think of one of the &#8220;oranges&#8221; books. What&#8217;s the other one? You don&#8217;t need to tell me both. Just the other one. I&#8217;ll take my answer off the air, thank you.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Li'l Pony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think candy bars are more remote from the natural roots of the food chain.</description>
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		<title>Comment on jonie v.&#8217;s secret confessions part I by Jules</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think i&#039;m cool with being a bitch inside! just as long as i&#039;m nice outside. see previous posts about the pony&#039;s and my philosophy of lying... 

okay, so you convinced me. my inner bitch is loved.</description>
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<p>okay, so you convinced me. my inner bitch is loved.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just making this up, but here goes.  I think sometimes detesting people feels good.  Schopenhauer or Nietzsche or Freud or someone would surely see it as a way of asserting oneself.  Maybe a visceral feeling of revulsion is itself a form of pride.  And I say yes to pride -- even be proud of it!  Why not?  Especially if you manage not to actually do anything mean or rotten to the person.

Or maybe I&#039;m just enjoying my inner bitch a lot lately.  Maybe you should not listen to a word I say, especially if you want to be nice on the inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just making this up, but here goes.  I think sometimes detesting people feels good.  Schopenhauer or Nietzsche or Freud or someone would surely see it as a way of asserting oneself.  Maybe a visceral feeling of revulsion is itself a form of pride.  And I say yes to pride &#8212; even be proud of it!  Why not?  Especially if you manage not to actually do anything mean or rotten to the person.</p>
<p>Or maybe I&#8217;m just enjoying my inner bitch a lot lately.  Maybe you should not listen to a word I say, especially if you want to be nice on the inside.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O shoot I&#039;m really lost.  But I won&#039;t give up.</description>
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